tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post4275360459289250910..comments2023-06-24T11:38:47.717-04:00Comments on Black Girls Rule!: So--What Can We Do?Aimeehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05618974302577733245noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-48141582714866582672007-09-19T20:16:00.000-04:002007-09-19T20:16:00.000-04:00instead of buying a glamour magazine or Ebony and ...instead of buying a glamour magazine or Ebony and the such....<BR/><BR/>.....might I suggest...a mirror!<BR/><BR/>You get to see the most beautiful girl in the world... She is beautiful or will grow to be as you get used to her.......<BR/><BR/>All her hair styles, you can do...<BR/><BR/>Her clothes are within your price range (we hope)....<BR/><BR/>Plus you get a big smile every morning!Miriamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06067406973014144499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-90046984344202902052007-09-17T00:59:00.000-04:002007-09-17T00:59:00.000-04:00oh wait! Is this Aimee? the one who just got marri...oh wait! Is this Aimee? the one who just got married?? oh wow! Hi!!Miriamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06067406973014144499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-44399876062940587112007-09-17T00:56:00.000-04:002007-09-17T00:56:00.000-04:00Hi there,I'm a bw with sort of a unique perspectiv...Hi there,<BR/><BR/>I'm a bw with sort of a unique perspective. I want to help bw but i'm not quite sure what to do. Do you have any ideas? Thanks.Miriamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06067406973014144499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-1207071170969340822007-09-05T15:13:00.000-04:002007-09-05T15:13:00.000-04:00HEADS UP EVERYBODY.............September 25, 2007 ...HEADS UP EVERYBODY.............<BR/>September 25, 2007 - Congress to Hold Hearings on Negative Portrayals Of Black Women in Media ( LUNCH UPDATE) <BR/><BR/>Please go to whataboutourdaughters.blogspot.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-91829836426758450082007-09-03T18:08:00.000-04:002007-09-03T18:08:00.000-04:00Mel said... Good luck to you with your BIGLAW inte...Mel said... <BR/><BR/><I>Good luck to you with your BIGLAW interviews. As a BIGLAW (DC) veteran, I can tell you that a lot of that stuff that is pitched to interviewees doesn't hold water when you start work . . . Be careful about the "women's group" stuff at the firm . . . Best of luck to you.</I><BR/><BR/>Thanks Mel! Believe me, I'm well aware of what a sham most "diversity" intiatives at law schools/law firms are. I mentioned the Women's Initiative because if the firm has such a program in place, it at least provides black women associates an existing platform in which to raise their concerns--even if the firm dismisses or ignores them, at the very least they have would then have tangible evidence of it's refusal to implement change or treat all of its associates equally. <BR/><BR/>Luckily, I didn't go straight from college to law school; I financed my own education through work and scholarships, and worked after college on Wall Street, so I've seen sharkish (and discriminatory) behavior up close and personal. That experience has served me well in recognizing how institutionalized much of this conduct is, but it has also served me in recognizing that you might as well stand up for yourself--it's not like being passive keeps you "safe." I've seen too many people make that mistake.<BR/><BR/>I expect this next stage of my career to include plenty of late nights, and I'm sure I'll witness my share of appalling ambition, but I've always been more inclined to keep my ears open than mouth in such circumstances. I'm actually looking forward to seeing how it all works out . . .Aimeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05618974302577733245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-80471714429784338162007-09-02T23:44:00.000-04:002007-09-02T23:44:00.000-04:00Ladies,I just read this article.Apparently earlier...Ladies,<BR/><BR/>I just read this article.<BR/><BR/>Apparently earlier this year the Baltimore Police Department tried to implement rules which would have banned dreads, twists, "fades" and braids from being worn. The rule was later rescinded after public outcry.<BR/>Article:<BR/>http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/comments.php?id=12068_0_67_0_C<BR/><BR/>Petition:<BR/><BR/>http://www.petitiononline.com/baltpd/petition.html<BR/><BR/>But it's a shame I haven't heard of this until now. And I think you're right. We need some type of "clearing house" so we know what's going on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-64573704104464154492007-09-01T20:35:00.000-04:002007-09-01T20:35:00.000-04:00Aimee--Good luck to you with your BIGLAW interview...Aimee--<BR/><BR/>Good luck to you with your BIGLAW interviews. As a BIGLAW (DC) veteran, I can tell you that a lot of that stuff that is pitched to interviewees doesn't hold water when you start work. Of course, billable hours rule, but as an AA, I found that I had to make my own experience and network within and outside the firm. And, I recall hearing a confirmed story that happened at a DC firm. The female partners (all WW) invited all of the female associates (all--WF, AA--all except for BW) to monthly dinners at the female partners' homes. Of course, one of the associates who was friendly with one of the BW associates, told her BW associate colleague what was going on. After that, instead of inviting the BW associates to the dinners, I heard that the dinners were stopped.<BR/>Be careful about the "women's group" stuff at the firm. Often, I found that it didn't apply to me. "Ain't I a woman" too? <BR/><BR/>In fairness, each firm has its own culture, and the firm you choose may be different than the BIGLAW firm I left 5 years ago. <BR/><BR/>Best of luck to you.<BR/><BR/>MelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-61108496572983348702007-09-01T16:29:00.000-04:002007-09-01T16:29:00.000-04:00I have never subscribe to the garbage Glamour prin...I have never subscribe to the garbage Glamour prints. I have never in my life looked to a fashion magazine such as Glamour for encouragement or any type of support. <BR/><BR/>Ann F.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-54954527273183905912007-09-01T15:47:00.000-04:002007-09-01T15:47:00.000-04:00Ruth,I guess I'm unclear on the question. The stu...Ruth,<BR/><BR/>I guess I'm unclear on the question. The study places bw paying power at 270 billion. <BR/><BR/>What other info are you looking for?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-2327500737130902692007-09-01T15:27:00.000-04:002007-09-01T15:27:00.000-04:00@ let love ruleThanks for your help with the links...@ let love rule<BR/>Thanks for your help with the links. I ran a Google search and found lots of aggregated numbers on buying power (and the Packaged Facts report is VERY expensive) but very little concrete info on bw's buying power as a singular group. I even ran a lit search through my school and work library databases and still came up with zilch. <BR/><BR/>Aimee, I anxiously await any articles you may find and post here on your blog.<BR/><BR/>And thanks to the folks who've checked out my blog so far!<BR/>http://meditationsonreeducation.blogspot.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-83427066352935674362007-09-01T09:42:00.000-04:002007-09-01T09:42:00.000-04:00Mel said... So what else has Cleary done except fo...Mel said... <BR/><BR/><I>So what else has Cleary done except for send the email out? I mean, there aren't a whole lot of African-American (female or male) attorneys there anyway (in NYC or elsewhere around the country), but what have they done for the associates/partners to show that they are more sensitive and sophisticated about these things in 2007? They could start a diversity series, if they haven't already. Is the management just sweeping this "gaffe" under the rug, or trying to blame it all on Glamour?<BR/><BR/>As a fellow attorney who has worked at several big firms, I know what it's like to be one of a few Black folk there. Can't imagine that I'd want to be at Cleary right now.</I><BR/>___________________________________<BR/><BR/>I thought, at least in terms of its response to Glamour's presentation, that Cleary's response was ok--not exceptional--but ok. They seem to make it clear to their own staff that they did not agree with Glamour's poisition on this issue, and their response appears to have been pretty immediate.<BR/><BR/>I only know one person from my class who is at Cleary now, and from what I remember from discussions of <I>Plessy</I> and affirmative action in Con Law, let's just say I think she would have been one of those clueless white associates wondering what the big deal was. Needless to say, this isn't someone I would want to reach out to for a perspective on what's going on over there.<BR/><BR/>Since I've just finished a round of interviewing with BigLaw firms, I know virtually all of them have jumped on the "Women's Initiative" bandwagon, and love to brag to prospective associates about these programs. This could be a good opportunity for Cleary's black associates to leverage the focus from this incident on to their concerns about increased diversity and respect. I definitely wonder who knew what, where, and when at Cleary about the substance of this presentation before it was made.Aimeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05618974302577733245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-10106893810498640012007-09-01T09:27:00.000-04:002007-09-01T09:27:00.000-04:00Ruth LaMorena said... Aimee, thank you for today's...Ruth LaMorena said... <BR/><BR/><I>Aimee, thank you for today's post and your blog!<BR/><BR/>I must be crazy with my school, work, and household committments, but I started a blog too. I named it "Meditations on My Re-Education."<BR/><BR/>http://meditationsonreeducation.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>Anyway, thank you for posting on the Glamour gaffe - I was beyond annoyed when I read about that. There has been a lot of talk about speaking, voting, and commenting with our dollars. I'm working on a post that would address EXACTLY what bw's buying power is but I can't find any numbers for us. Purchasing or buying power for AA's is not calculated by gender anywhere I have looked. Do any of you other very intelligent and educated ladies know if bw as a group's buying/purchasing power has been reported anywhere?<BR/><BR/>Those numbers would help solidify the power we have with advertisers. Keep up the good work all!</I><BR/>___________________________________<BR/><BR/>Welcome Ruth--I can't wait to visit your blog!<BR/><BR/>I'm looking for the same numbers, and as soon as I find anything solid, I will post it in the articles of interest section here. Having those figures available will be incredibly helpful in reminding businesses and advertisers of EXACTLY what they have at stake.Aimeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05618974302577733245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-37844699773965172642007-09-01T09:20:00.000-04:002007-09-01T09:20:00.000-04:00Thanks PVW, for providing the You Said It link to ...Thanks PVW, for providing the You Said It link to Glamour--I realized after I published my blog that I hadn't included a link that would have made it that much easier for readers to comment.<BR/><BR/>It amazes that some people STILL insist that BW wearing our hair in its natural state is somehow "unprofessional." I've somehow managed to progress pretty steadily in two of the most conservative employment environments on the planet (Wall Street and the law) wearing my hair natural or braided almost the entire time. When black people (like Black Enterprise and Hampton University) endorese this nonsense, it only makes it that much worse.Aimeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05618974302577733245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-25252447538442447622007-09-01T03:29:00.000-04:002007-09-01T03:29:00.000-04:00I think there is a corollary to the argument of pu...I think there is a corollary to the argument of pulling our patronage and that is giving it to some other person/product we approve of, to reinforce our message and teach a new way of treating bw as a group! <BR/><BR/>ie Robin Thicke wakes up one morning and discovers he has a huge new following because bw approve of him, think how more effective that message would be.<BR/><BR/>i magine bw pushing Robin Ahead of Jay Z on the download charts etc.<BR/><BR/>I guess i am off to buy all Trex old CD's.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.dateawhiteguybook.com" REL="nofollow">Supposing I wanted to Date a White Guy...?</A>Halimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13400009793511308799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-50648886272771526532007-08-31T23:33:00.000-04:002007-08-31T23:33:00.000-04:00Actually when I look at it, it might be different ...Actually when I look at it, it might be different reports from the same company which may be the source of the disparity.<BR/><BR/>Sorry Aimee for defacing your blog in the attempt to answer one simple question. LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-74090640003587300882007-08-31T23:23:00.000-04:002007-08-31T23:23:00.000-04:00Something seems to be off about the numbers becaus...Something seems to be off about the numbers because it seems it says that the bc has $700+ billion and woman only comprised $200+ billion. <BR/><BR/>You would really have to read the entire study to see how they broke women out. Maybe those are single heads of households only. And the rest men, and couples.<BR/><BR/>But the tudy is very expensive around $3000. But perhap you can find a copy somewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-49325981484780528952007-08-31T23:19:00.000-04:002007-08-31T23:19:00.000-04:00Ruth LaMorena said... Do any of you other very int...Ruth LaMorena said... <BR/>Do any of you other very intelligent and educated ladies know if bw as a group's buying/purchasing power has been reported anywhere?<BR/>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<BR/><BR/>The numbers are easy to find. Just Google. Here it is:<BR/><BR/>All info based on Packaged Facts, a division of MarketResearch.com, report, “The U.S. Multicultural Women Market.”<BR/><BR/>an article on the report can be found at<BR/>http://www.naa.org/r2/buyingspree.html<BR/><BR/>"African-American women carry the most spending power among women of color at $270 billion and the largest share of that market, but are expected to soon be eclipsed by Latinas. "<BR/><BR/>"By 2008, the African-American, Asian-American and Latina women who make up this market are expected to reach 36.8 million and flex their economic muscle to the tune of $1 trillion in buying power.<BR/><BR/>Their share of U.S. buying power is growing – from 8 percent of total U.S. buying power in 2003 to 9.4 percent in 2008."<BR/><BR/><BR/>The same study puts the collective buying power of the AA community at $762 billion with an expected increase to nearly $1 trillion by 2010.<BR/><BR/>"The national share of buying power for African Americans will increase to 8.6% by 2010 from 8.4% in 2005."<BR/><BR/>http://www.brandweek.com/bw/search/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002073810Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-44168495956068875802007-08-31T21:31:00.000-04:002007-08-31T21:31:00.000-04:00zabeth said...It looks like progress has been made...zabeth said...<BR/><BR/>It looks like progress has been made on this issue!<BR/><BR/>In terms of major advertisers in Glamour here is a list of a few:<BR/><BR/>DKNY<BR/>GAP<BR/>Revlon<BR/>L'oreal<BR/>Cover Girl<BR/>Tiffany<BR/>Garnier, LLC<BR/>Clinique<BR/>Redken<BR/>Ralph Lauren<BR/>Target<BR/>Sephora<BR/>Sears<BR/>Sally Hansen<BR/>Ford<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>I would definitely cc L'Oreal and Garnier. They were convicted last month for racial bias in their recruitment campaigns in France.<BR/><BR/>www.guardian.co.uk/france/story/0,,2120789,00.htmlShocolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17555004578273158204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-77356550907710919342007-08-31T20:52:00.000-04:002007-08-31T20:52:00.000-04:00Isn't this the same issue with Queen Latifah and t...Isn't this the same issue with Queen Latifah and two white women on the cover? I wonder what her opinion is. I've been wearing my hair naturally for 2 years and I can't believe they had the nerve to post the article in the magazine(I know they talk about it). I tried to email them as pioneervalleywoman did but I was unable to complete it since it wouldn't allow me to enter my state. Maybe they've received a lot of emails regarding the article. Whatever the case may be, I've never subscribed to the magazine nor do I intend to and I have advised everyone I know about this article. We gotta hit 'em where it hurts($$$$$). Thank you so much for this blog, I'm spreading the word about it. :)Jaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11908384670102939370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-87999639029392835652007-08-31T18:36:00.000-04:002007-08-31T18:36:00.000-04:00I think a campaign to get the 17% of black readers...I think a campaign to get the 17% of black readers (or whatever percentage) to stop would be better. And when I say campaign i mean loud. A double digit drop in readership would cause panic. Also always remember when an advertiser does right by you drop them a line and tell them soo. Spread this story to other black bloggers and forums. Get people who have subscriptions to drop it and let glamour know why. While your at it boycott this jerk music producer and the artist he produces.<BR/><BR/>http://concreteloop.com/2007/08/producer-polow-da-don-respondsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-87458074636941501932007-08-31T17:23:00.000-04:002007-08-31T17:23:00.000-04:00Aimee,So what else has Cleary done except for send...Aimee,<BR/><BR/>So what else has Cleary done except for send the email out? I mean, there aren't a whole lot of African-American (female or male) attorneys there anyway (in NYC or elsewhere around the country), but what have they done for the associates/partners to show that they are more sensitive and sophisticated about these things in 2007? They could start a diversity series, if they haven't already. Is the management just sweeping this "gaffe" under the rug, or trying to blame it all on Glamour?<BR/><BR/>As a fellow attorney who has worked at several big firms, I know what it's like to be one of a few Black folk there. Can't imagine that I'd want to be at Cleary right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-19548753944197293592007-08-31T14:00:00.000-04:002007-08-31T14:00:00.000-04:00Aimee, thank you for today's post and your blog!I ...Aimee, thank you for today's post and your blog!<BR/><BR/>I must be crazy with my school, work, and household committments, but I started a blog too. I named it "Meditations on My Re-Education."<BR/><BR/>http://meditationsonreeducation.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>Anyway, thank you for posting on the <I>Glamour</I> gaffe - I was beyond annoyed when I read about that. There has been a lot of talk about speaking, voting, and commenting with our dollars. I'm working on a post that would address EXACTLY what bw's buying power is but I can't find any numbers for us. Purchasing or buying power for AA's is not calculated by gender anywhere I have looked. Do any of you other very intelligent and educated ladies know if bw as a group's buying/purchasing power has been reported anywhere?<BR/><BR/>Those numbers would help solidify the power we have with advertisers. Keep up the good work all!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-81825208468822336572007-08-31T12:33:00.000-04:002007-08-31T12:33:00.000-04:00It looks like progress has been made on this issue...It looks like progress has been made on this issue!<BR/><BR/>In terms of major advertisers in Glamour here is a list of a few:<BR/><BR/>DKNY<BR/>GAP<BR/>Revlon<BR/>L'oreal<BR/>Cover Girl<BR/>Tiffany<BR/>Garnier, LLC<BR/>Clinique<BR/>Redken<BR/>Ralph Lauren<BR/>Target<BR/>Sephora<BR/>Sears<BR/>Sally Hansen<BR/>FordZabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12691376432212065138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-39165204673642289932007-08-31T11:42:00.000-04:002007-08-31T11:42:00.000-04:00Thanks for your comments! It is not too much of a...Thanks for your comments! It is not too much of a problem to start a blog, I have found, but I too just got hooked reading and responding to others'... <BR/><BR/>If you decide to, write essays on occasion, and if you're concerned about trolls and management problems, just make sure it is set up so that you decide who can post, and you just have to post them when you're ready. It doesn't require too much time!<BR/><BR/>Because of the summer, and my relaxed schedule, I have more time to work on it, which will probably change once classes start...But I imagine an hour or two per week should be ideal....<BR/><BR/>But it seems as though with Evia's and Halima's, it would almost be a full-time job, just dealing with an incredible number of posts, particularly when readers can respond as they wish, whenever they wish.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>As for the campaign, here is a response I got from Glamour:<BR/><BR/><BR/>Thank you very much for your letter about a Glamour editor’s reported comments<BR/>on hairstyles for work. We want to take this opportunity to assure you: Her<BR/>remark—that Afros are not office-appropriate—does not represent Glamour’s view.<BR/><BR/>The junior staffer in question was speaking without her superior’s knowledge<BR/>or approval. We at the magazine strongly disagree with her comments; they go against the spirit of inclusion Glamour stands for. We are proud of our diverse readership, and strive to ensure that all women can find themselves represented in the magazine. Obviously, this is a grave matter, and this staffer was immediately stripped of her duties publicly representing the magazine. In addition, Glamour has extended a full apology to the law firm she addressed, and we extend the same apology to you.<BR/><BR/>We value your opinion, and hope you continue to read Glamour—a magazine that celebrates the beauty of all women.<BR/><BR/>Sincerely,<BR/>Cindi Leive<BR/>Editor-In-Chief, GlamourPVWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12410310404539584350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5281981687901780653.post-14229344019554076012007-08-31T11:28:00.000-04:002007-08-31T11:28:00.000-04:00Anonymous said... knockoutchick says:I wish I had ...Anonymous said... <BR/>knockoutchick says:<BR/><BR/>I wish I had the time to start a blog of my own. Unfortunately,I wouldn't have the time to manage it properly. I am online all day for work...but reading comments and posting on a blog is entirely different than handling the managment and editing.<BR/><BR/>I commend, Evia, Gina, Halima and PVM. I know it ain't easy. <BR/><BR/>August 31, 2007 10:35 AM <BR/>___________________________________<BR/><BR/>Ditto That !!!<BR/><BR/>pinkyLostGirl#1https://www.blogger.com/profile/17269134318441460871noreply@blogger.com